Break down turtle reliably and turn rides into finishes.
The Bottom Line
You get breakdowns and rides that drain the turtle and expose arms and neck. The focus is control first so you do not lose position. It is ideal for wrestlers crossing into no-gi submission grappling.
⚡️ Quick facts
Best for: Turtle hunters
Skip if: You play guard only
Tech focus: Turtle Rides, Breakdowns, Cradles, Spiral Ride, Dwl Entries
Biggest takeaway: Ride pressure creates openings.
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What You'll Learn
A focused study on turtle offense and defense. Learn breakdowns, rides, and finishes that turn a stalled turtle into your scoring and submission hub.
Primary Techniques You'll Drill
- Turtle Rides
- Breakdowns
- Cradles
- Spiral Ride
- Dwl Entries
- Front Headlock
- Turnovers
Format & Level
- Instructional style: System Based
- Skill level: All Levels
- Format: No-Gi
- Runtime: 5 hours and 16 minutes
Should You Buy It?
Wait for daily deal. I learned that breaking posture in turtle is about hip levers, not yanking the neck.
Why Joel Bane?
Joel Bane teaches modern catch with emphasis on rides and wrist control. He has cross-training in BJJ and luta livre. His turtle curriculum targets practical breakdowns and secure finishes.
Community feedback
Here’s a summary of common feedback from platforms like Reddit’s r/bjj.
😍 Why People Love It
- Snakepit Wigan resources are cited as practical and modern.
- Students who trained with Bane recall effective control details.
🤔 Common Criticisms
- Under BJJ rules, some argue catch approaches struggle more.
- Quality across catch gyms varies widely per community posts.
Smart Alternatives
- Brutal Catch Wrestling Leg Riding and Hammer Locks – Pairs turtle rides with DWL finishes. (Price: $79.00, 3 vols)
- No-Gi Grappler's Guide to Front Headlock – Sharpen a key turtle control and finishing hub.
Sources & References
Official listing: View Catch Wrestling Turtle Encyclopedia: Fighting From The Turtle on BJJ Fanatics
Additional References
Your next step
You have the breakdown, community feedback, and my final thoughts. Now it’s your move.

